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Post by caviesrepublic on May 27, 2003 18:19:35 GMT 7
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Post by wheekwheek on May 27, 2003 20:09:15 GMT 7
I doubt any one will bother to listen. U read the posts lor. Ppl always have reasons for buying from pet shops. Like I said, when the buying stops, the killing can too. |
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Post by Silwolf on May 27, 2003 22:47:56 GMT 7
wow...other countries' pet condition are worse then sg! maybe we are much stricter in law then other countries....by the way if we dun buy from pet stores then wher to find constant breeders who always have Gp to sell? i tink sometime ther is no choice but to buy from pet stores....a breeder must get the pet from a place b4 he can breed it rite? we got no choice sometime,best way is if we dun keep pets then pple wont sell it...,to me i tink tis is the best method to stop petstores selling animals
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Post by wheekwheek on May 28, 2003 11:09:34 GMT 7
There is such a thing called adoption from SPCA or buying from cavy owners who want to give away their cavies. Problem is most ppl think these pets are "2nd hand" so they see them no up.
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Post by Silwolf on May 28, 2003 12:23:47 GMT 7
but then same thing as i sae...b4 SPCA can get those animals,pple also must buy from pet shops first b4 they dump it ther,anyway if ther are breeders we will get from them if ther are none then we still have no choice but to get animals from pet shops...it is really no choice
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Post by emmababy on May 28, 2003 13:54:14 GMT 7
There are'nt a lot of guinea pigs breeders & if u are looking for a particular look then no choice but to buy from pet shops. Just chose one that keeps the animals in reasonable condition lor.
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Post by caviesrepublic on May 28, 2003 14:51:09 GMT 7
If you are looking for breeders, maybe wheekwheek's friend can help since his friend, Melissa is a breeder.
I've got her email address from wheekwheek's website
lady_kitty@hotmail.com
I doubt SPCA have guinea pigs for adoption. Most of them are dogs, cats, hamsters & rabbits. I seldom see guinea pigs around in the pound. I used to be a member of the SPCA & if you think that all animals people abandoned can be placed into the pound for adoption, then you are wrong. The pound is small & there is limited space for the animals there. SPCA is very helpless too so don't think that if you don't want your pet, you give simply dump them at to the SPCA. Some will be put to sleep you know! So think twice before buying animal animals.
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Post by wheekwheek on May 28, 2003 19:38:11 GMT 7
It does help. Why else do you think SPCA encourages ppl to adopt? And why you think ppl like Cat Society & Action for S'pore Dogs also encourages adoption?
Is true a person MAY have gotten his pet from a shop & is now putting it up for adoption. If you adopt from him, that's one petshop pet less. If you buy from the shop instead of adopting, that's another petshop pet being bought.
Two wrongs do not make a right my friend. Go to any website local or US. They all encourage adoption 'cos its the only way to help this situation. If one wants to buy a petshop cavy, there is always a lot of excuses that can be given.
Some think by buying petshop pets, they are rescuing them. Not true. More pets will be brought in to replace those you bought. Are you going to rescue those too? Its a vicious cycle. The only way is not to buy from them, so eventually they see the lack of demand & don't bother selling them.
All I'm saying is if you really care about them, then adopt. Besides, its cheaper too! Yes some petshop pets may look very beautiful with all the texels & rosettes. And sure the cert guaranteeing that its a pedigree cavy from Germany is very attractive too.
But is all of this worth it? Ok let's say u are very rich & can afford to spend hundreds on a petshop cavy. That's besides the point. The point is that u aren't helping the situation lor. The shops sees their pets are so popular, they bring in more for sale. Once again, the vicious cycle starts.
So instead of threatening to burn down the shop or complaining to AVA (they are too busy murdering strays), the most effective way is to stop buying from pet shops. They are into this trade for money. If their pets don't bring in any income, they will no longer bother selling them.
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Post by Administrator on May 28, 2003 20:43:56 GMT 7
If you are looking for breeders, maybe wheekwheek's friend can help since his friend, Melissa is a breeder. I've got her email address from wheekwheek's website lady_kitty@hotmail.com I think melissa went to brisbane |
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Post by wheekwheek on May 28, 2003 20:46:15 GMT 7
I think melissa went to brisbane Can email her to ask when she'll be back. |
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Post by Silwolf on May 29, 2003 0:31:20 GMT 7
But them not dun go to all pet shops,there is always some that treat animals better,if we dun go to those that treat animals bad then they will not import anymore animals....not always go to petshops unless breeders is not available or ther is none for adoption
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Post by caviesrepublic on May 29, 2003 11:37:28 GMT 7
But most animals in the petshop are placed in small cages. When you see petshops selling rabbits, guinea pigs or hamsters aren't they placed in small cages or tanks? You know I used to think if the guinea pig sold in petshop is healthy then it should be fine. When I got my first guinea pig 5 years ago, the staff in the petstore told me that my piggy is a female but i found out later that it's a male. He said that my piggy was healthy but he has mites & dry skin. Another incident was that my friend bought a female piggy in a petshop in Tampines. She brought her to the vet then we realised that she was pregnant! Some more she's just 2 months old! The staff place males & females piggies together & didn't realise she was pregnant. Maybe you think that my friend won jackpot buy one piggy get 2 babies free but now we are looking for responsible pple to adopt them cos both babies are males... Some petshops even have their housepets placed in small & clamped tanks like the rest of the animals to be sold. Hai~ Actually all petshops are the same..  |
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Post by wheekwheek on May 29, 2003 12:53:02 GMT 7
99% of the time, pet shop pets are not treated well. Some shops even mix different genders or worst still different species. Bedding dirty & smelly. Water bottle dry or polluted. Barely any hay. Pellets that look stale. Small crammed cages.
The list of atrocities just goes on. And surely you don't think they bring a sick animal to the vet. A vet visit costs easily $30 without medication. And they sell the animal for about that same price. So u think they will bother?
So they leave the sick animal alone & it ends up spreading the illness to others in the same cage. Of course the shop wouldn't admit this but its quite common sense that they wouldn't admit it mah.
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Post by wheekwheek on May 29, 2003 13:04:39 GMT 7
A look at any msg board will show that there are always pets for adoption. The problem like I said is some ppl have the mentality that these are second hand pets & they don't want them. Others want to have the "prestige" of owning a pedigree rather than a "pariah".
That is why ppl still go to pet shops. Very sad. Pride has more place in their hearts than animals' suffering.
As for certain shops being kind to animals, granted not all pet shops are bad but 99% are. And that 1% which are not, how well do you know the shop? Unless you own the shop, then I wouldn't argue with you. If not, how do you know they aren't guilty of being irresponsible?
Talk about bedding. Ok I have seen some shops that have clean bedding. Fair enough. But I've yet to see a clean water bottle. Always either got algae or bedding inside. And what about hay? All I see is brown & yellowish hay. Never any decent hay. And if an animal is ill, does the shop bring it to the vet? Of course they tell you yes, but how true is it?
Unless you own the shop, its really quite hard to identify a shop that truly cares & treats their animals well. So the safest is, don't buy from them. Anyway most of the time they charge exhorbitant prices! And some try to swindle too.
This shops I went to had abssyinnians & labelled them as "long haired" & used that as an excuse to slap on a $80 price tag. Abbys are not long haired! Coronets & peruvians yes but not abbys!
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Post by emmababy on May 29, 2003 13:39:04 GMT 7
If u wana adopt dogs..there's more options available but i feel there's not so much for guinea pigs. I tik apart from Melissa & Victor, there's not many people who breeds guinea pigs.
Some of us are really crazy over a particular breed, thus if it's not available from the home breeders, we'll get from petshops...but i also prefer to get from home breeders cos the animals tend to be more healthy.
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